I’ve read that …..
Ok – I found it –
Cost of Illegal Immigration Equals Cost of California Budget Deficit
http://www.capsweb.org

I appreciate your looking things up – information is so much more persuasive than rhetoric! I have NO personal stake in seeing my opinions upheld by inaccurate statistics, in spite of what you imply. I didn’t have the time to go through all of the hits I got, and I’m glad that others did the legwork for me and shared their results. And speaking of rhetoric…..

…that is just the same ole tired liberal stupid BS you folks who really have no idea how to be an adult (ie take ANY responsibility) spout
like most things that would disprove or be an anathema to the lib MSM – you (the public) wont hear about it.

You are making a lot of assumptions . Personal responsibility is not yet another value that the conservatives have cornered the market on. If we are going to make uninformed sweeping generalizations, we might as well talk only with people we know agree with us!

Fact? Proof?

I’ve read that particularly in the california state budget – the cost just for already incarcerated illegals is an unbelievable figure. But like most things that would disprove or be an anathema to the lib MSM – you (the public) wont hear about it.

Ok – I found it —
Cost of Illegal Immigration Equals Cost of California Budget Deficit
http://www.capsweb.org/content.php?id=308&menu_id=8

Liberals are the one’s in possession of both logic and compassion, two things that don’t function well with greed (capitalism).

I first responded pleasantly to point out the fallacies in that statement, but now just have to say – that is just the same ole tired liberal stupid BS you folks who really have no idea how to be an adult (ie take ANY responsibility) spout !! whew — sorry..

http://www.google.com/search?q=conservatives+more+generous&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Substance abuse and mental illness often go hand-in-hand. NO ONE would voluntarily admit themselves, or anyone they love, into a state-run institution if there were any other options. For many, living on the street is preferable to the kind of “care” they receive from the government. These people are not all ignorant slackers!

“Little known fact right here. They cause 180 billion dollars in crime per year. That does not even include legal fees.”

Fact? Proof?

“Liberals are the one’s in possession of both logic and compassion,”

Would you happen to be one of the people who complain about the polarization of America, and how conservatives refuse to cooperate with liberals? Because I know people on both extremes of the spectrum, and logic doesn’t seem to be a quality one side can claim as their own.

“Of course, your only solution is to tax conservatives (oops, I mean the wealthy who got that way from their own accord, many of them first-generationers) at an ever increasing rate. If liberals truely cared for the poor, they would at least match what conservatives give to charity, despite what you say our motives are (or unfounded accusations of hand-selecting recipients). But liberals don’t give as much, because they normally don’t have as much, and liberalism is largely founded in an entitlement viewpoint of the world.”

Where to begin? Again, where is the proof? For information on philanthropic giving demographics (a google search the poster could have done before asserting that conservatives are more generous than liberals) yielded this site:
http://www.generousgiving.org/page.asp?sec=4&page=451
There are other sites with similar information.